Investigative journalist Whitney Webb spoke with The Jimmy Dore Show about her book, "One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime That Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein." The book is so long — and packed with so many incredible details and references — that it was split into two volumes.
When you get into this fascinating read, you learn that organized
crime fused with intelligence agencies during World War II, forming the
precursor of the CIA — the Office of Strategic Services (OSS).
The web of corruption grew from there, as criminal factions and
intelligence agencies developed a symbiotic relationship using blackmail
as a tool to achieve their individual ends. It's not just about money,
although wealth is certainly part of it. It's about power and control,
which those involved, including Jeffrey Epstein, would stop at nothing
to achieve.
War Was Used to Justify the Precursor to the CIA
When I interviewed Webb in 2022,
she started at the beginning, going back to World War II, detailing the
connections between the intelligence community in the U.S. and
organized crime. There was a decentralized network of different
organized crime groups operating in the U.S. in the early 20th century.
It was known as the national crime syndicate. Webb told Dore:1
"Historically, organized crime in the U.S. — most people are
probably familiar with it because of Hollywood — tended to be an ethnic
enclave. So you'd have Irish organized crime, the Jewish mob, the
Italian mafia and so on. The national crime syndicate broke down those
silos and brought these different groups together. That made them a lot
more successful."
According to Webb, the main people
behind this were Meyer Lansky, representing the Jewish mob, and Lucky
Luciano of the Italian mafia. The pair formally teamed up with the
Office of Naval Intelligence and the OSS during World War II.
"OSS is the precursor to the CIA," Webb said, "and this was justified
as necessary because it was the war, right? So a wartime necessity
justification." Webb continued:2
"Then the war ends and the intelligence apparatus of the U.S. and
these mob guys realize they have a lot in common and they work really
well together. So that's why in the '60s and '50s you see a lot of
people involved in assassination stuff for the CIA … you see a lot of
mob guys around, for example. There's a lot of other examples of them
interacting on and off over the years."
From there, it expanded into shadow banking, finance and the world of
corporate power as well "and just really became out of control," Webb
said.3 This was a worldwide effort, however, not one contained to the U.S.
"The Israeli intelligence got involved in this developing power
nexus," she continued, "because the Jewish mob side of the national
crime syndicate was heavily involved in the arming of the Haganah [a
paramilitary group] and the precursor to the IDF [Israel Defense
Forces]. So, basically, by the time the state of Israel is created,
these alliances are part of its national security state from the off."4
Operation Underworld — The Consolidation of Power Networks
Webb states there's evidence that the fusion of organized crime and
government occurred even before what was formally termed Operation
Underworld, beginning with the Democratic party in New York City, which
was entwined with organized crime in the early 20th century. The mob had
taken over most of the unions, which means they had also largely taken
over the Democratic party.
Later it expanded to the Republican party as well, but initially
power consolidation began in New York, including with the political
machine Tammany Hall. Infamous New York described it this way:5
"Organized, politically connected and deadly, by the 1870s the
gangs of New York had metastasized from leaderless hordes of criminals
of the Civil War era into a cancerous pox, directed and controlled by
New York's political machine, Tammany Hall. With names like the Dead
Rabbits, the Whyos, the Monk Eastmans, and the Five Pointers, gangs
became a hallmark of New York politics in the early 20th Century."
Sexual Blackmail's Role in US History
One theme that pops up repeatedly in Webb's book is the use of sexual
blackmail in various scandals in U.S. history. She ties it back to
Jeffrey Epstein, who, she says, is not an anomaly with behavior
exclusive to him:6
"This is a type of activity that has been done over and over
again in our political system … It's a type of operation that was
perfected first by the mob. So this is something that's really born out
of, in my opinion, this organized crime intelligence team. It's been
going on for an excessive amount of time at this point."
J. Edgar Hoover, who led the FBI from 1924 to 1972 and was the top
law enforcement official in the U.S., was sexually blackmailed by the
mob in the '30s, Webb said, which is why he didn't go after organized
crime:7
"The sexual blackmail operation that entrapped him [Hoover] also
intimately involved a man named Roy Cohn, who was best known as Donald
Trump's mentor. And the two of them, along with the mob-linked
businessman named Lewis Rosenstiel, were seen engaging in sexual
blackmail operations themselves. But, again, Hoover and Cohn only joined
that after they had been entrapped — and this involved minors."
Epstein's Ties to the Powerful Elite
Scandals involving sexual blackmail are numerous in U.S. political
history. Webb rattles off several, including the page boy scandal in
1982, where congressmen were caught engaging in sex with underage
Congressional pages, as well as the Franklin Scandal, a nationwide
child-trafficking and pedophilia ring. The most prominent modern-day
scandal, however, involves Epstein.
Epstein, while dismissed as a simple sex criminal, was far more
instrumental to the globalist cabal than it first appears. In addition
to being a mastermind at shadow banking and illicit finance, he engaged
in major financial crimes and had ties to many powerful people, from
Bill Clinton, Bill Gates and Donald Trump to the CIA, which Webb details
in her book:8
"In my book I talk about how, in my opinion, Jeffrey Epstein was
involved in two parallel operations of sex trafficking. So there's the
one that everyone knows about — the underage exploited girls — but then
there's these women that he invested a lot of time in when they're
minors, then funds their education and what have you over time. He
developed them as assets and then married them off to his powerful
friends."
Webb also delves into Epstein's ties to Bill Gates. While mainstream
media narrative states that Epstein and Gates didn't meet until 2011,
Webb says that's not true:9
"There's mainstream media articles from 2001 saying that Jeffrey
Epstein made all his money from his business connections — to three men —
and those three men are Leslie Wexner [former owner of Victoria's
Secret], Donald Trump and the third one is Bill Gates."
One example of the deep connection that actually existed between
Epstein and Gates involves Melanie Walker, who is also, by the way,
involved with the World Economic Forum:10,11
"She was recruited by Epstein in 1992, allegedly as a Victoria's
Secret model, but there's no evidence she ever actually modeled for
Victoria's Secret. He apparently was funding her education, hires her as
his science adviser in the late '90s and then a couple years after
that, in the early 2000s, she becomes the science adviser to the Bill
and Melinda Gates Foundation.
So if you're going to apply to be science adviser to the Bill and
Melinda Gates Foundation, and your CV says my most recent experience is
being the science adviser to Jeffrey Epstein, and you're Bill Gates
hiring your top science adviser, you would have to know who Jeffrey
Epstein is and what kind of science he's into."
Webb believes Gates is lying about his ties to Epstein not only to
protect himself but also to protect Microsoft. "You also have, in the
'90s, Jeffrey Epstein flying around on planes to official Microsoft
functions in Russia, apparently giving women to the chief technology
officer who was very close to Bill Gates … all sorts of stuff going on
there with Epstein and Microsoft," Webb explained.12
Suspicious 'Suicides' Continue
From Epstein's death to the death of Ghislaine Maxwell's father
Robert, many "suicides" appear to be tied back to the global cabal and
intelligence agencies attempting to hide incriminating information. One
such death is that of Mark Middleton, special assistant to the chief of
staff at the Clinton White House, who was responsible for setting up
Epstein's visits to the White House:13
"Jeffrey Epstein had 15 meetings in about a year with a guy named
Mark Middleton. Mark Middleton died earlier this year with an extension
cord around his neck and a shotgun wound to the chest in Little Rock,
Arkansas, which was ruled a suicide.
Here's the other thing. Mark Middleton was so scandalous for what
he was doing at the same time Jeffrey Epstein was meeting with him that
he was being investigated by Congress, and the only reason that
investigation never finished is because the first time George W. Bush —
the subsequent president — invoked executive privilege was to keep
documents about Mark Middleton from being made available to Congress.
Mark Middleton was not a big fish, you would think, at the White
House. He was just an aide to the chief of staff to Bill Clinton. So
what was going on with Mark Middleton there?
Well, it's mostly remembered as this scandal in 1996 called The
Campaign Finance Scandal of '96. It's related to the fundraising of the
DNC for Clinton's re-election campaign, but a lot of what was going on
is that foreign citizens were laundering campaign contributions, filling
DNC coffers, but a lot of it was targeting Ron Brown."
Ron Brown, Clinton's secretary of commerce, also died under mysterious circumstances:14
"A lot of what was going on there were efforts to change Commerce
Department policy so that a lot of very sensitive military technology
could be sent to adversary nations when that was normally not allowed.
And some of the people at the center of this were people like
Lockheed Martin's CEO, who actually later goes on to create InQTel for
the CIA. And you have a guy named Bernard Schwartz that runs a race to
run Loral Space. He was one of Biden's biggest donors in 2020.
So basically you have this huge effort to undermine the Commerce
Department and buy off Ron Brown. Ron Brown at some point — as all of
this kept going on pieces of it began to unravel — he agreed to
cooperate with investigators. Not long after that he was unexpectedly
invited to go on a trade mission to Croatia, and the plane crashes
because of a supposedly aging navigational system.
Everyone on the plane dies except for a flight attendant that
apparently walked away but then when she arrived at the hospital in a
military helicopter, she arrived with a broken neck. Ron Brown's body
was so odd when it was discovered that people in Congress called for it
to be investigated because he appeared to have a bullet wound in the
skull not caused by a plane crash."
The Solution — Don't Be Afraid and Get Local
In her book, Webb explains her reasons for believing Epstein won't be
replaced with a cadre of new blackmailers. They don't need people like
him anymore, thanks to modern surveillance technology.
They can access everything, all your accounts, cameras, phones,
microphones, surveillance cameras, you name it. They can find blackmail
material on anyone these days. Of course, this tech is also being used
to enslave and control the rest of us. They're counting on you taking
your cellphone with you everywhere, and adopting other forms of digital
control, like vaccine passports and central bank digital currencies.
You don't have to volunteer to give this information and give up your
control, however. You can opt out. Stay local and build connections in
your community. Webb explained:
"What we need are regular people to take responsibility. So many
of us are looking for the good guy versus the bad guy on the level of
nation state leadership. No. The good guys are just the regular people
like you and me, and the bad guys are the people most often at the top
that have stomped on heads and clawed their way to the heights of power,
regardless of what nation state you're talking about.
It's among regular people where you will find the 'good guys'
you're looking for and it's time for those people to come together and
say 'Enough!' And we really can do it. It just is about taking personal
responsibility … We have to take our power back and that starts on an
individual level."
To learn more, be sure to pick up a copy of, "One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Crime That Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein." If you would like to view more of the interviews that Webb did for this book, this page on her site has links to all the many podcasts she has done about this book.